Refugees In Jesus

"The LORD is my rock and my fortress and my deliverer, my God, my rock, in whom I take refuge, my shield, and the horn of my salvation, my stronghold." Psalm 18:2 ESV
It is currently Thu Sep 09, 2010 12:30 pm

All times are UTC - 6 hours [ DST ]




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 2 posts ] 
Author Message
 Post subject: Thoughts on Embracing the Cross
PostPosted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 1:08 pm 
Offline
Site Administrator
Site Administrator
User avatar

Joined: Tue Aug 28, 2007 7:05 am
Posts: 2731
Location: Mankato, MN
From the Koinonia Blog (KOINONIA is hosted by Zondervan Academic and Friends.)

http://www.koinoniablog.net/2010/02/wittmer.html

Friday, February 19, 2010

Michael E. Wittmer: Extreme Measures

Thoughts on Embracing the Cross

If desperate situations call for extreme measures, then extreme measures are a sign that we are in a desperate situation. When a police car flashes its lights behind me, my wife turns to me and says in her disapproving voice, "What did you do?" If my car is surrounded by police cars and a television helicopter is hovering overhead, my wife’s tone will become more accusatory, "What did you do?" If a fighter jet joins the chase, dropping bombs in the direction of our car, my wife might scream like the leading lady in a Schwarzenegger movie, "What did you do?!"

Consider what God did to save us. He didn’t hand us a brochure or ask us to attend a seminar, as if our problem was merely ignorance. He didn’t hold an intervention or send us to boot camp, as if our problem was merely stubbornness. He answered our need with the cross, which can only mean that we have really messed up. If the cross is necessary to save us, then What did we do?


The cross is a dagger through the happy talk of "you’re okay, I’m okay" and if we just try harder we can get past our issues and change the world. The center of history is a weapon of torture—imagine holding hands around a guillotine or electric chair and you’ll get the idea. The cross informs us that things have gone horribly wrong, and they won’t be right unless somebody dies.

That somebody is Jesus. It’s fashionable to deny that Jesus died to pay the debt which we owed to God (the penal substitution view of the atonement). I agree that penal substitution doesn’t explain everything that happened on the cross (Jesus also defeated Satan and left us an example), but it does express the most important thing. Take away penal substitution, and you can’t explain what happened there.

Consider William Channing, a Unitarian who said that his liberal friends "have no desire to conceal the fact that a difference of opinion exists among us in regard to an interesting part of Christ’s mediation,--I mean, in regard to the precise influence of his death on our forgiveness."1

Or Greg Boyd, whose Christus Victor view contributes a necessary aspect of the atonement. Nevertheless, without penal substitution, Boyd is forced to concede that "Obviously, this account [Christus Victor] leaves unanswered a number of questions we might like answered. E.g., precisely how did Calvary and the resurrection defeat the powers? …at the end of the day we must humbly acknowledge that our understanding is severely limited."2

Perhaps the reluctance to embrace penal substitution—despite its explanatory power—lies in part in an overly optimistic view of ourselves. We don’t think we’re really that bad, surely not bad enough to deserve God’s wrath, and so we are unable to say precisely why Jesus died.

That somebody is us. Jesus died instead of us but not without us. We don’t get away scot free, but are called to take up our cross and be crucified with Christ (Matt. 16:24; Gal. 2:20; Rom. 6:1-14). Karl Barth explains: "That Jesus Christ died for us does not mean, therefore, that we do not have to die, but that we have died in and with him, that as the people we were we have been done away and destroyed, that we are no longer there and have no more future."3

Salvation is free but it’s not cheap. It cost Jesus his life, and if you accept his gift, it will cost yours.


1) William E. Channing, "Unitarian Christianity," in The Works of William E. Channing (1882; reprint, New York: Burt Franklin, 1970), 378.

2) Greg Boyd, "Christus Victor View," in The Nature of the Atonement, ed. James Beilby and Paul R. Eddy (InterVarsity, 2006), 37.

3) Karl Barth, Church Dogmatics II/1, ed. G. W. Bromiley and T. F. Torrance (Edinburgh: T. & T. Clark, 1957), 295.

_________________
"Be watchful, stand firm in the faith, act like men, be strong."
1 Corinthians 16:13 (ESV)


Top
 Profile E-mail  
 
 Post subject: Re: Thoughts on Embracing the Cross
PostPosted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 7:32 pm 
Offline
Forum Moderator
Forum Moderator

Joined: Tue Aug 28, 2007 11:02 pm
Posts: 1513
Location: Upstate NY
It is an interesting statement about the precise influence of his (Messiah Jesus) death on our forgiveness.

Without his death, there is no forgiveness. Just as the sacrifice of Passover lamb was a necessity for the Jewish people, THE Passover Lamb, being Jesus, is necessary for all of mankind, to whomever accepts Jesus as his or her Lord and Savior. Without His death, we do not have eternal life.

Consider what God did to save us is something that we do. WE consider it, we contemplate it, and we thank our Creator for His salvation. Thank the Lord God for His sacrificial death on the behalf of each one of us.

Halleluyah!

_________________
Elena

Isaiah 48:16: "Come near to Me, listen to this: From the first I have not spoken in secret, From the time it took place, I was there.
And now the Lord GOD has sent Me, and His Spirit."


Top
 Profile E-mail  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 2 posts ] 

All times are UTC - 6 hours [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
cron
Powered by phpBB © 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007 phpBB Group