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 Post subject: Genesis--And on the sixth day
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Gen 1:26 Then God said, "Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; and let them rule over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the sky and over the cattle and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth."
27 God created man in His own image, in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them.

Gen 2:7 Then the LORD God formed man of dust from the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living being.


This is the only example that we have where Adonai personally molded one of His creations. Wasn't everything else spoken into existence? Man is molded using the dust, so he is just the mold, correct? No bones, no brain or electrical system in the brain, no pulmonary system, circulatory system, reproductive system or nervous system, right? When Adonai breathed the breath of life into Adam's nostril's, was it then that all the internal works were also created, as well as man becoming a living soul?

Any thoughts or Biblical references on this?

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Man became a living soul after receiving the breaths (plural) of life breathed into him from Adonai (The Lord) Himself. Apparently, this says more than we realize.

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Genesis 2:7 Then the LORD God formed man of dust from the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living being.

Genesis 3:19 By the sweat of your face You will eat bread, Till you return to the ground, Because from it you were taken; For you are dust, And to dust you shall return."

John 3:31 "He who comes from above is above all, he who is of the earth is from the earth and speaks of the earth. He who comes from heaven is above all. (NASB ©1995)

Does not every aspect of man's physical body deteriorate the same as the beasts of the earth, including internal organs, nerves, brain, etc?

What differentiates man from the beasts is the soul of man.

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Caretaker wrote:
Does not every aspect of man's physical body deteriorate the same as the beasts of the earth, including internal organs, nerves, brain, etc?

What differentiates man from the beasts is the soul of man.


Greetings, Caretaker, it is good to see you here again.

Yes, man's physical body does deteriorate as any other living creature. Weren't all the beasts of the earth spoken into existence?

Gumby, Thomas? I can see you laughing. In a sense, before The Lord GOD breathed the breaths of life into Adam, the gumby concept, only not so flat, is applicable in a simpler sense.

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Gen 1:26 Then God said, "Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; and let them rule over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the sky and over the cattle and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth."
27 God created man in His own image, in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them.

Gen 2:7 Then the LORD God formed man of dust from the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living being.


This is the only example that we have where Adonai personally molded one of His creations. Wasn't everything else spoken into existence? Man is molded using the dust, so he is just the mold, correct? No bones, no brain or electrical system in the brain, no pulmonary system, circulatory system, reproductive system or nervous system, right? When Adonai breathed the breath of life into Adam's nostril's, was it then that all the internal works were also created, as well as man becoming a living soul?

Any thoughts or Biblical references on this?


Hi Elena;

Good to be here again.

Genesis 1:
25: And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
26: And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
27: So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

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7: And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

19: And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof.

It appears to be a similar physical forming of animals and man. What differentiates man from the animals is the breath of life when man became a living soul.

All internal and physical aspects of man and animal are the same physical makeup. It is the soul which differentiates. There is nothing of the physical man which makes him any more special then the beasts of the field.

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7: Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.

I do not believe that the context would support the breath of YHWH forming the internal physical elements, but more the spiritual aspects of a triune being reflective of the Triune Creator.

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Thank you, Brother Drew!

My cousin and I were discussing this topic on how our internal workings, such as the circulatory system and respiratory system, came into existence from a being who was molded out of the earth. Neither of us came up with a satisfactory explanation, except to say that our Creator knows what He is doing. (Yes, this is the best we could do.) It make sense that the breaths of life may have initiated our respiratory systems, but we cannot lean upon our own understanding of GOD's ways.

Genesis 2:19 is very helpful, because the passage about 19: And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; did not sink in until just now.

I have been told that the Hebrew word for giraffe means "neck". Now this makes perfect sense, and GOD our Creator definitely has a sense of humor.

Brother Drew wrote:
"I do not believe that the context would support the breath of YHWH forming the internal physical elements, but more the spiritual aspects of a triune being reflective of the Triune Creator."

This is well said and something with which I agree.

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(I'm back online after dealing for a few days with a virus. My head is now mostly clear. I probably couldn't have made any sense up to this point.)

I think that when God molded Adam (and I think the idea of God only molding the one creature by hand is an interesting point and something to think about), my speculation would be that He made him complete, only without life. I think that may be the position that would be most solidly supported by the scripture. Then when He breathed the breath of life into him, then Adam lived. (And what a statement about the incredible abilities of our omnipotent God!)

I think anything else drawn from the scriptures about this is merely speculation - could be right, could be wrong.

Why do you suppose God chose to speak everything else into being, but He molded Adam and breathed life into him?

(Looks like my mind is getting back on track - lots going on, as evidenced by all the parenthetical sentences. :wink )

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Hey Thomas, are you fishing for a new nickname? Gumby? :grin :lol:

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